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Post by beigen on Apr 15, 2016 15:08:24 GMT -5
I've submitted the Phase 1 paperwork and will be submitting Phase 2 paperwork in the coming 6 months.
In anticipation of becoming a citizen, I'm curious to learn about specific benefits of citizenship. I'm speaking of things beyond the general "live and work anywhere in the E.U." type of information.
Can anyone link to Luxembourg government sites that provide specific information on topics like health care, education, retirement benefits, etc.?
I'd also be curious to know about how citizenship benefits are allotted to non-resident citizens.
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Post by Christophe on Apr 18, 2016 7:52:14 GMT -5
I've submitted the Phase 1 paperwork and will be submitting Phase 2 paperwork in the coming 6 months. In anticipation of becoming a citizen, I'm curious to learn about specific benefits of citizenship. I'm speaking of things beyond the general "live and work anywhere in the E.U." type of information. Can anyone link to Luxembourg government sites that provide specific information on topics like health care, education, retirement benefits, etc.? I'd also be curious to know about how citizenship benefits are allotted to non-resident citizens. You do not receive any benefits. You do not pay taxes in Luxembourg. Also, you are a non-resident. Therefore, even if you did go to school in Luxembourg, you would still have to pay the higher non-resident fees. In short, you may eventually become a citizen, but there will not be any free handouts for you as a non-resident who has never paid into the system there. |
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Post by Jen on May 14, 2016 11:00:03 GMT -5
My understanding is non-resident citizens can vote in Luxembourg elections.
Aside from that, I haven't heard of any other benefits.
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Post by bt008 on May 15, 2016 21:02:28 GMT -5
My understanding is non-resident citizens can vote in Luxembourg elections. Aside from that, I haven't heard of any other benefits. Voting is compulsory, I believe? (Not sure if it's actually enforced however) |
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Post by AdA on May 19, 2016 8:27:23 GMT -5
My understanding is non-resident citizens can vote in Luxembourg elections. Aside from that, I haven't heard of any other benefits. Voting is compulsory, I believe? (Not sure if it's actually enforced however) Not if you're not resident. |
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Post by zweber567 on May 21, 2016 16:55:39 GMT -5
What is this about being a non resident? I can't find anything confirming what your saying about non residents not gaining any benefits. Doesn't one simply move there and then gain the benefits of citizenship? Also as far as I know gaining national status enables one to full EU citizen rights which is defined as being a national of and EU member countries including Luxembourg. So specifically I'm not sure why you say even if they moved there they would have to pay higher fees for university. It looks like the University of Luxembourg doesn't charge additional fees for non citizens anyways (from http://wwwen.uni.lu):  If they did charge fees given that they are then a EU national they could just go on to another EU University that doesn't. "Under EU law, all EU nationals are entitled to use a host country's education system on the same terms as it's own nationals" Excerpt from the Citizens' EU rights FAQ: Attachments:
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Post by Kieffer on Jul 27, 2016 6:09:04 GMT -5
The way pension works, is that you pay into it through your taxation throughout your working years. So, if you have paid nothing into it, you'll get nothing from it.
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Post by twoj on Jul 27, 2016 7:13:15 GMT -5
I'll throw in my $0.02 - I agree with Keiffer that a Defined Contribution Pension that, although not a taxation, is a pension where you 'hopefully' get back what you put in and 'hopefully' with some accumulated interest.
However what I think is more a question is that counties have like a minimum income or income supplement, examples are welfare or old-age security.
I know these social programs are specific to each country and the conditions on whom is eligible. I don't know what would be the case for Luxembourg.
But I think its a good discussion in the sense that as a 'new' Luxembourg national would you be covered for medical coverage if for example you never lived there but you had an accident there and needed to go to the hospital - are you covered under some type of state medicare system or do you need travel-medical insurance from your 'native' country.
For me it is not a question of what can I get out of this, it is what are now are the benefits and conditions of being a resident/non-resident citizen
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Post by AdA on Jul 30, 2016 8:49:32 GMT -5
But I think its a good discussion in the sense that as a 'new' Luxembourg national would you be covered for medical coverage if for example you never lived there but you had an accident there and needed to go to the hospital - are you covered under some type of state medicare system or do you need travel-medical insurance from your 'native' country. For me it is not a question of what can I get out of this, it is what are now are the benefits and conditions of being a resident/non-resident citizen I unfortunately can't definitely answer for Luxembourg, but in France you are not covered. If you go to the hospital or any doctor, you need to pay upfront all the costs, they give you a paper that you need to give to your insurance, and then maybe they'll reimburse you. But you need your own insurance at home. The only thing concerning Lux. I'm sure about is that if you live in Europe, there's a form that's called E111 (E111 European Health Insurance Card - they seem to have replaced the form with a card) and with it, you'll get your money back like if it had been home - so it depends on your coverage at home. But for this, you need to live and be insured in Europe. |
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Post by twoj on Jul 31, 2016 9:31:47 GMT -5
I unfortunately can't definitely answer for Luxembourg, but in France you are not covered. If you go to the hospital or any doctor, you need to pay upfront all the costs, they give you a paper that you need to give to your insurance, and then maybe they'll reimburse you. But you need your own insurance at home. The only thing concerning Lux. I'm sure about is that if you live in Europe, there's a form that's called E111 (E111 European Health Insurance Card - they seem to have replaced the form with a card) and with it, you'll get your money back like if it had been home - so it depends on your coverage at home. But for this, you need to live and be insured in Europe.
Thanks for the info AdA - we'll be in France next month and it was one of the questions I had about French nationality - it is kinda what I expected. I was researching a bit more the bank account situation in France and I found someone who had some interesting information; expatriates.stackexchange.com/questions/84/how-to-open-bank-account-in-france-if-i-dont-have-address-of-residence-yet
basically he is saying to get a 'attestation d'hébergement - proof of accommodation' - which should be the necessary document stating that you are staying with the inlaws as a temporary home. Just stupid that I have to feel like i'm a shady person for trying to open a bank account!
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Post by AdA on Jul 31, 2016 16:35:07 GMT -5
Bienvenue dans le pays du système D !  |
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Post by Michelle on Aug 4, 2016 23:06:15 GMT -5
How does the Luxembourg pension system compare with other countries? Is there a national old age pension that all Luxembourg citizens are eligible for at legal age of retirement? I am specifically asking about a national pension separate from any kind of employer based pension. Is retirement at 65 in Luxembourg?
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