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Post by Michael S on Feb 4, 2016 11:46:22 GMT -5
Greeetings: I have received conflicting advice here. The Consulate in San Francisco sanfrancisco.mae.lu/en/content/download/47475/384113/file/Reclaiming%20Luxembourg%20Nationality.pdf states: Documents accompanying the applications must be transmitted in one of the following languages:
French, German, or Luxembourgish. If the documents are in any other language (including
English), a translation will need to be made by a certified translator.
Did anyone send their English only documents to the MoJ without translation and receive their Certificat Relatif a L’Aieul Luxembourgeois”? Thank you for any help. |
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Post by moike92 on Feb 7, 2016 6:11:18 GMT -5
You do not need to translate the documents for Phase 1. Just certified true copies of the originals. The translations are required for Phase 2. If you try and get the documents for Phase 1 translated you are going to end up spending way more money than needed. The translations required for Phase 2 are
• Birth Certificate
• Police record
• Passport
Although if you are an American then you will not need to get a translation of your passport since the American passport already has a French translation on it.
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Post by Michael S on Feb 8, 2016 18:58:05 GMT -5
Thank you for the information. Another phase 1 question occurred to me.
I have been able to obtain true certified copies of registrations (not certificates) of birth, marriage, and death for my ancestors here in Canada. Must they be certificates or will true copies of the registrations suffice? These are the documents upon which the certificates are based. If you or anyone has had experience with this please advise. Thank you again.
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Post by moike92 on Feb 9, 2016 2:31:53 GMT -5
Unfortunately this is a question I do not know the answer to as I had obtained certified copies of the certificates. Not registrations. I advise you to contact the ministry and ask them.
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Post by twoj on Feb 9, 2016 11:39:09 GMT -5
I suspect they will be acceptable, they are certified by the provincial government to be true information so I would assume regardless of whether the information comes from an original document or a registration with the relevant information certified by the local government as accurate then I think they would accept it.
But as moike recommends it probably is a good idea to contact the ministry to confirm.
BTW - nice to see another Canadian here - there are some information in that guide which does not really apply to Canadians - one of the things is you can get 3 certified copies of your Canadian passport for $40 IIRC at Passport Canada, assuming you have one, however they take your passport for 2 weeks, send it to Ottawa to take a colour photocopy and stamp it!
Anyways its more in Phase 2 that there are differences - like the security check. If you have questions just post them. Happy hunting.
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Post by Michael S on Feb 9, 2016 16:33:07 GMT -5
Thank you, moike and twoj. If one cannot submit true certified copies of reg docs from provincial governments it will be nightmare as some provinces simply do not issue certificates without a court order. The certificates/documents I received from Luxembourg archives were signed copies so if those are accepted I presume other jurisdictions' documents will be , too. I hope. Regarding the security check, I presume we need to submit fingerprints to RCMP to obtain Certified Criminal record check (hopefully it can be ordered in French): www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/steps-obtain-certified-criminal-record-or-vulnerable-sector-vs-checkHow is Canadian security check process different than other countries? |
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Post by twoj on Feb 9, 2016 17:34:06 GMT -5
I can't really say for you, the Canadian certificates that I needed were only from Quebec - and they only give certified Registrations, not the original copy. Those are the only type you can get and those are the ones I sent to Luxembourg.
I actually had to submit a background criminal check for an application for French Nationality not too long ago and the information they sent me is that it is a 'Canadian Police Certificate', aka 'Certified Criminal Record check'. They sent me locations in Montreal that do it, it cost $50, the only thing is that I don't recall needing to give my fingerprints, it was only 2 pieces of government ID and they they mail it to you 1-2 weeks later.
The security check is all pretty basic - they see if your name comes up in the national database of criminals - probably takes all of 30secs - but they need to make money somehow.
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Post by Charlie Heitzig on Feb 22, 2018 9:16:19 GMT -5
Adding to this (old) conversation. I can confirm that we just did our Phase 1 / Stage 1 process WITHOUT getting the documents translated, and it worked fine-- we received certificat (sp?) back from Luxembourg recently.
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Post by mnowatz on Feb 22, 2018 15:50:17 GMT -5
Adding to this (old) conversation. I can confirm that we just did our Phase 1 / Stage 1 process WITHOUT getting the documents translated, and it worked fine-- we received certificat (sp?) back from Luxembourg recently. Charlie, how long did it take you to receive your certificate back? I sent mine in mid November and haven't heard anything, and I'm starting to get a little worried things were possibly lost (USPS didn't offer tracking...). |
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Post by bitz57 on Mar 14, 2018 22:11:02 GMT -5
Adding to this (old) conversation. I can confirm that we just did our Phase 1 / Stage 1 process WITHOUT getting the documents translated, and it worked fine-- we received certificat (sp?) back from Luxembourg recently. Charlie, I'm also very interested to know when you submitted yours. I sent mine in around the beginning of November 2017. They replied stating they were working on July 2017 apps. So I am hoping to receive something in the next month or so. Curious to see if that is still the correct timeline. Thanks in advance. |
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Post by mdmar3571 on Apr 16, 2018 17:54:26 GMT -5
I didn't have to translate the actual document copies for phase 1. I also used some "Genealogical Only" stamped certificate copies that they accepted. I did include a chart that numbered each document, and outlined starting with myself, my parents, grandparents, back and back and back - and explained how I was related to them - and any other nuances that may have occurred like changes in surnames due to divorce, marriage, documents of some that could not be located, etc. I had this document translated into french, and also provided an english copy. and placed all documents in that order. Do not know if thats me being overly detailed, but thats what i did to cover all bases.
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Post by Charlie Heitzig on May 19, 2018 14:41:10 GMT -5
Hi,
Sorry I missed the replies-- because I wasn't logged in when I posted, I didn't get notified of the reply.
We submitted our docs sometime in early December, 2017 (I don't know for sure when they were actually submitted to Luxembourg, but I got an email from Kevin Wester on Dec 4 saying he'd received them, and would get them in the mail to Luxembourg. Kevin Wester is a guy we used to advise us on the Stage I process (I'd recommend him, btw!) . We received our documents sometime in January, 2018-- the dates on the document itself is January 16, 2018 (it's actually written as 16 janvier 2018), but there's no postmark and I don't remember the exact date. So maybe two months in our case?
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